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Belana Mawr
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:24:00 -
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I am seeing gankers kill ships on 0.5 every 20 minutes. They use 3mills isk worth of destroyer that packs an 800dps hit and is more than capable of taking down 250mill worth of hulk tanked or otherwise.
All the victim gets is a kill right and at best might take out another destroyer worth 3 mill. This is worthless and not a deterrent. Most gankers in 0.5 are flashy red and you don't need kill rights to fire on them. They sit at safe spots and have alts deliver destroyers to them then bookmark and warp in on there targets often snagging the pods too because of the concord response times.
What can we suggest to CCP to implement and make ganking more cost worthy? I am all for risk = isk but it seems to me there is little or no defence to these over powered destroyers
We have seen a lot of rebalancing in the last couple of patches. Is the answer to nuke the dps of destroyers and force gankers to use more expensive ships?
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Belana Mawr
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:27:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:You can make the gank cost more if you use a Skiff (I think thats the tanky barge).
Then they team up and 2 destroyers (6mills worth) will take out your skiff
and still have time to pop your pod, |
Belana Mawr
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:34:00 -
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ok I may have exaggerated at the cost of the ship but as this link shows
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20539008
this fit can take out a hulk and pod for only 11mil
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Belana Mawr
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:40:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Best I've ever gotten is 500ish DPS range off a Catalyst.
It takes more like..10-12 Cats to drop a Skiff, not 2.
ISK tanking is an awful idea. Ship worth should have no bearing on it's survivability.
Your wrong
8-10 could near on take out an orca with the response times in 0.5
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Belana Mawr
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:41:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:That wasn't a Hulk, it was a Retriever, big difference especially in cost.
Look at the same pilot... he took out 3 hulks with the same fit
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Belana Mawr
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Posted - 2013.09.15 16:11:00 -
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Ghost Phius wrote:I think I'll tell my ganker friends about this thread. They might find an interesting target. 
you have friends??
Thanks for your valuable input |
Belana Mawr
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Posted - 2013.09.15 16:14:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:CCP buffs the tank for all barges and exhumers nerfing forever the idea of a Hulkageddon........... and "they" still complain. Unfortunately, CCP hasn't built the tank directly into the hull yet. Look for mining barges and exhumers to be revamped to be almost exactly like freighters in the near future. Mining vessels will have max mining output rolled into the hull, as well as the resists, and resultant EHP of a DCU, invuln, and shield extenders/rigs, leaving only high slots for the chosen mining modules. Or course, they will still scream like babbies fresh off the teat when their crap continues to be ganked. You know just as well as I do, no matter what CCP does to buff miners, they'll still pick the one with the largest ore bay, aim it at a rock, then go AFK. Then get ganked. Then complain about it. The smart one's who stay ATK and use the tools provided will continue to make ISK. Hey, Feature Idea. Take the retty/makinaw, trade highslot numbers with the proc/skiff, then swap the role bonus with the covetor/hulk. I mean, they're AFK anyway, who cares how long it takes to fill the hold.
Even if you are not afk and aligned the speed these destroyers take out exhumers is scary, Insta lock and scram... game over |
Belana Mawr
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Posted - 2013.09.15 16:23:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Belana Mawr wrote:
Even if you are not afk and aligned the speed these destroyers take out exhumers is scary, Insta lock and scram... game over
If you're not AFK, then you must notice that scanning ship or Venture with its nose crammed square up the ass of your mining ship at 0m, providing the warp-in for his gank buddies. That's your first indicator that it's time to GTFO.
in my experience there is no way of seeing a covert ship? that's what provided the warp in
and we are talking about one ship/player here not a gank squad causing local to spike
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